Why 99% of all incel men will always be incel.

I have been reflecting on all my past experiences to try and overcome incel, and I reckon with the amount of effort, time, and money I placed in trying to overcome my fate, I should have slept with more women then Hugh Heffner…  God knows I spent more effort, talked to more women, took more seminars, than 99% of the male population to try and become good with women.

Let me explain..  I was always a miserable failure with women growing up.  I basically did not exist, all throughout high school, and college.  I guarantee none of those girls remember I was ever even alive.  Back in 2000, one night I was in a depressed drunken stupor, since I was 27 and never been with a woman, I was searching on the internet, about picking up chicks, and I came across Ross Jefferies.  I promptly ordered his home study course and joined my local lair.  I thought at the time this stuff is so weird and out there, it may actually work.  I knew it would take a while to get good with it, so I made some like minded friends, and went out and sarged continuously.  It was fun for a while, even as the numbers of approaches which were pretty much all failures started racking up.  The rejection at the time was not so bad, because all the guys I was sarging with were getting rejected constantly as well..  We really did some over the top stuff, which was funny, but flat out did not get any of us laid.  I was so roped in, that I even paid the $800 to go to an RJ seminar, which was the biggest waste of money and bunch of BS I have ever seen.  I then called it quits on speed seduction, until someone back in 2002 told me about mystery and how he is the real deal, and all his followers are getting more poon than they could handle.  I went out with a few of these guys, who all dressed like clowns, and they seemed to be getting much better reactions with women, and at the time, I though all those guys were getting laid (because they said so).  In 2003, I signed up for a Mystery workshop.  Now, Mystery at the time was the real deal, I have to say.  He had women throwing themselves at him left and right.  The workshop supercharged me, and I went out and bought thousands of dollars of wardrobe to change my style.  Back to the approaching… During the next year or so, I approached thousands of women, and got rejected thousands of times.  How many times did I have sex up to this point you ask?  The answer is once.  My non PUA friends saw who saw me out, thought I was the man, because initially I did get some good reactions…  That is the thing about PUA, all of these guys approach, and to the untrained observer, it looks like the women are interested, but rarely do these guys EVER get beyond that.  One of my friends at the time then told me about another budding PUA company called RSD and how he just took a workshop, and how their stuff blew everything else away, and how RSD was able to take what worked for mystery and compact it in a way that would work for the average guy.  I was sold, and signed up for RSD circa 2004.  Tyler (owen cook) and papa (Nick kho) were running the workshop, and I can tell you that Tyler is as big of a scumbag as everyone says.  It is a this point that I started realizing that PUA is bullshit, and just a way to capitalize on desperate/incel guys who have money to spend.  I continued for the next couple of years or so,  doing thousands more approaches, until I threw in the towel in about 2006.  Here is the final tally of almost 6 years of pua:

Amount of money spent on workshops/books/seminars ~$6,000

Amount of money spent on wardrobe ~$4,000

Amount of money spent on dates/club fees/drinks > $30,000

Amount of approaches > 15,000

Amount of wasted time = countless thousands of hours

Amount of girlfriends achieved = 0

Amount of times I have had sex = 5

Number of emails sent via online dating sites > 50,000

Number of dates achieved from online dating < 15

Number of women slept with from online dating = 3

Number of girlfriends achieved via online dating = 0

So you may be saying..  That rantsofanincel dude must be physically deformed…  Not at all, I was always told that I am above average in looks, and I am in great physical shape.  I have been told from so called master PUA’s that my problem is that I am too intellectual, and come across as a boring nerd..  Some comments made by women back this up as well.. WTF?  I am an undesirable because I am smart, work hard, and do not have a criminal record, and my taxes have to pay for these cunts to boot.  You cannot make this shit up..

Now, was this just me?  I met hundreds of guys in the PUA community during these years, and not a single guy, who was originally unsuccessful ever became successful with women.  I have met other guys (a small percentage) who were successful with women already, and wanted to become even more successful.  In the case of those guys, their success rocketed to the moon.  The reason being, is that PUA freed them from any and all inhibitions to approach/talk to women.  The bottom line is if you are already successful with women, PUA will make you more successful.  If you are completely unsuccessful, you will be in an even worse off situation then you were when you started.  As I said, I have not met a single guy, who was originally unsuccessful with women, become successful with PUA. Most guys who are unsuccessful with women usually dabble with PUA for about a year or two, get rejected every single time, and then they drop out. Those were the fast learners.  It took me 6 years, thousands of dollars, and thousands of hours of wasted time to finally do that.

So the point of all this is that since 80% of women go for 20% of men, just like a pack of dogs, if you are in the bottom 10%, you have NO options, period.  You have a better shot of getting the rug pregnant, than getting a woman.  I proved that with the tens of thousands of approaches with PUA, and absolutely no results.  Most incel men would agree that being an incel is the worst form of psychological torture possible, lasting a lifetime… Most women agree with this as well, but only when it suits them (either way they don’t care).  Women who can sense that a man who is a family member/acquaintance/friend is incel, will try and shine them on by saying crap like “It is ok to be alone..” or “you will find somenone”, but these same cunts will insult men who are incels, when they speak out, by saying crap like “it is comforting to know that these guys will die alone, never spreading their worthless genes.”  Where is the justice for these men, as they struggle to hold on to their sanity?  What about the thousands of incel men each year who quit, by committing suicide, because they cannot find a woman?  Then you have big guberment providing support for fuckups/badboys, women and their babies, people oppressed in other countries, but what about the incel who is productive and pays taxes?

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16 thoughts on “Why 99% of all incel men will always be incel.

  1. So let me sum it up:
    1. You are above average in looks
    2. Big
    3. Have money
    4. Did 15.000 approaches with 5 lays. 0 gf.

    I call bs then. If thats true entire puahate looks theory debunked.
    ok women are.cunts, but what is according to you the reason for your inceldom ?
    Are you mentally ill and creep out women in the first 3 sec? Even that I dont believe, you sound perfectly normal.

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  2. I am about average in looks. I am above average in fitness. I have money but no millionaire. To get american women based off money alone, you need 5-10 million. The reason for my inceldom is I am a boring nerd and an introvert.

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  3. Srsly if its true what you say,that introverted=INCELDOM
    IM FUCKED.
    have 0 friends and speak very little. Am very introverted but not intellectual. Kind of average iq introvert.
    Dunno, im 23 I want to believe incleldom is not destiny for me.
    Idiotic hope that this cant be over yet, that I will change….
    but im not in murica (aka sexual market colloseum) so maybe there is hope……

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  4. If you had instead spent that money letting a woman indulge herself at your expense, you would have gotten laid more. There are women out then who will charity ball a guy who spends his money on her. She just won’t do it twice. But you’d have gotten more action than you did listening to hucksters, where the screwing you got was economic.

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  5. Restaurants outside of colleges, but especially the diners that don’t get that many customers.
    Desperate waitresses are your salvation if you choose to take that route.

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  6. Have you tried meeting women who are also introverted and nerdy? You won’t find them in bars or out dancing, but maybe you could meet them by joining a club that focuses on your interests. Then again, you seem like you have a really low opinion of women, which will repel women who sense it.

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  7. Yes, I have tried everything. Women who are introverted and nerdy, who are single, are practically non-existent. My low opinion of women stems from how they have treated me all my life.

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  8. LOL @ the idea that women who are “introverted and nerdy” won’t lose their panties and skirts around Chad Thundercock.
    The older the woman is out of the “age of consent”, it is almost completely certain she’s done the nasty – but especially with Mr. Thundercock.
    Also remember that women make up their minds about men within the first few seconds.

    And … women approach men they are attracted to
    “Courtship Signaling and Adolescents:
    “Girls Just Wanna Have Fun”?

    Monica M. Moore, Ph.D.
    Department of Behavioral and Social Sciences, Webster University

    Cary (1976) discovered that the woman, through eye contact, controlled the course of interaction with a male stranger, both in the laboratory and in singles’ bars. Perper (1985) gave a detailed description of courtship, stressing an escalation-response process in which women play a key role in escalation or deescalation. The steps in this process are approach, turn, first touch, and steady development of body synchronization.

    Although these reports are clearly valuable, most researchers addressed courtship very generally, and some failed to recognize the importance of the female role in the courtship process .What was needed was a more complete ethogram of women’s nonverbal courtship signals. To compile such a catalog of flirting behavior exhibited by women involved in initial heterosexual interaction, more than 200 adults were observed (Moore, 1985) in field settings such as singles’ bars, restaurants, and parties.
    Research has shown, therefore, that the cultural myth that the man is always the sexual aggressor, pressing himself on a reluctant woman, is incorrect.”

    I think it’s type to update those gender stereotypes. After all, 1 in 3 women watch pornography regularly, and how did dildos become such bestsellers, if “women don’t like sex” … it’s simple, it’s because “women don’t like sex with regular guys, they will become raging compliant whores around Chad Thundercock”.

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  9. “Have you tried meeting women who are also introverted and nerdy?”

    Why would he do that?

    “Then again, you seem like you have a really low opinion of women, which will repel women who sense it.”

    Picking a woman’s eye out with nail scissors makes you more attractive than respecting them today.

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  10. $40000 spent over 6 years and net result=5 shags?! $8000 per shag, ouch! I have been incredibly lucky (or unlucky, pending on how you look at it) having had 2 long term relationships and one mid term relationship, resulting in a daughter with each, over the course of 7 years. All the women approched me, and were so far out of my league I was shocked, proper stunners, and 2 were 4 or 5 years younger than me. I was the most introverted loner, thin and small and low on confidence/opinion of myself and average looking. Don’t know how that works, genuinely mystified and I, bizarre as it sounds, still identify as incel?? Nothing I can say will make it better for you or convince you as I know the hopelessness feelings of being an incel having endured the lifestyle for a long protracted period with seemingly no end in sight, but I hope things get better with regards to women for you.

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  11. Thanks. i normally consider myself to be a pretty sharp guy, but I am telling my story of utter stupidity falling into that PUA bullcrap, so just maybe one other guy can learn from me. At this point, I really no longer care if I get a woman or not. Thank god, that my libido has gone down quite a bit in the past 10 years or so. I hire a hooker once a month or so, and that is enough for me. I now focus on telling my story to everybody, and being called gay or a loser no longer bothers me either. At one time I would have envied you, I do not think a single women under 300 pounds has ever approached me, but now, I just do not care. I no longer even give women the validation of even looking at them.

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  12. As I say, I have NEVER approached a woman and I’m 32 now, if those other 3 had not have approached me (indeed number 2 and 3 I resisted their advances for a while, convinced that I would screw it up somehow) then I would be a virgin incel to this day. After number one finished with me after 3 years, I had NO friends as I only knew her friends and her family and was in a different country so it was TOTAL isolation, I was seriously ready to do a George Sodini. I spent 6 weeks in total isolation, zero human interaction (apart from when my ex dropped my 18 month old off), unemployed so human contact there and realised this was my life forever. I prepared letters, mostly filled with vitriol for my ex, had some blunt objects on me and went to the local bar for some dutch courage before the act. Then a miracle happened, me been socially inept, suddenly (something to do with me being Irish and a “mysterious stranger” in a little English town perhaps), I managed to fit right in?! I could not believe it, I dropped the George Sodini plan and began to go in everyday and, still been hopeless around women but perhaps with growing confidence and a social circle building, plus been quiet with an Irish accent, I got approched by a woman miles out of my league. I tried to sneak out and leave, coward that I am, though got spotted and she linked my arm and I walked her back to mine and hey presto. When that ended after 7 months, about a month or so afterwards, the sequence repeated itself and I had another 3 year relationship. Now, given everything, and I know I’m lucky as I now have about 80+ friends built up over 5 years since my almost George Sodini episode, and I do have confidence now, I’m WILLINGLY celibate believe it or not! My reasons are that I have 3 kids with 3 women, so enough is enough there, and I really loved number 2 and she sadly died 2 years ago. Her death played a huge part in ending my relationship with number 3, therefore I don’t believe it fair to have another relationship as no woman can ever live up to her in my eyes. Incidentaly, it’s not all rosy as the two surviving women, number 1 and number 3 bloody hate for no reason, and refuse to let me see my kids. Also, in typical “cunt” mentality, the break As I say, I have NEVER approached a woman and I’m 32 now, if those other 3 had not have approached me (indeed number 2 and 3 I resisted their advances for a while, convinced that I would screw it up somehow) then I would be a virgin incel to this day. After number one finished with me after 3 years, I had NO friends as I only knew her friends and her family and was in a different country so it was TOTAL isolation, I was seriously ready to do a George Sodini. I spent 6 weeks in total isolation, zero human interaction (apart from when my ex dropped my 18 month old off), unemployed so human contact there and realised this was my life forever. I prepared letters, mostly filled with vitriol for my ex, had some blunt objects on me and went to the local bar for some dutch courage before the act. Then a miracle happened, me been socially inept, suddenly (something to do with me being Irish and a “mysterious stranger” in a little English town perhaps), I managed to fit right in?! I could not believe it, I dropped the George Sodini plan and began to go in everyday and, still been hopeless around women but perhaps with growing confidence and a social circle building, plus been quiet with an Irish accent, I got approched by a woman miles out of my league. I tried to sneak out and leave, coward that I am, though got spotted and she linked my arm and I walked her back to mine and hey presto. When that ended after 7 months, about a month or so afterwards, the sequence repeated itself and I had another 3 year relationship. Now, given everything, and I know I’m lucky as I now have about 80+ friends built up over 5 years since my almost George Sodini episode, and I do have confidence now, I’m WILLINGLY celibate believe it or not! My reasons are that I have 3 kids with 3 women, so enough is enough there, and I really loved number 2 and she sadly died 2 years ago. Her death played a huge part in ending my relationship with number 3, therefore I don’t believe it fair to have another relationship as no woman can ever live up to her in my eyes. Incidentaly, it’s not all rosy as the two surviving women, number 1 and number 3 bloody hate for no reason, and refuse to let me see my kids. Also, in typical “cunt” mentality, the breakups were all my fault, even though they ran off with other men. They both used to hate eachother, as I was going out with number 3, and number 1 presumably wanted me to remain miserable and lonely forever, yet as soon as I split with number 3 the pair of them have become best of friends and gang up on me about my kids. Obviously they assume I’m miserable because I’m single again, though they couldn’t be more wrong, I’ve been there with women, had my kids, loved and lost the love of my life sadly, crammed a lifetime of relationships and all that comes with them into 7 years and now I’m happily single. Ready to totally emphasise with incels as I feel I have in common with you guysand fellow MGTOW’s , and I’ve seen both sides of the coin and I know what creatures the vast majority of women really are.

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