MGTOW is the new PUA

Bill Greathouse, founder of the TFL movement, just made a good video explaining this:

This video got me doing some thinking, and it seems he is totally right.  I did some brief google searches on PUA, which I have not done in quite a few years, just to see what was out there.  It seems that the number of PUA gurus has diminished 10-fold since about 2008.  A few of the same scumbags, such as RSD are still out there, but they are not getting anywhere near the business they used to.  The reason for this, I believe, is there is much more information out there about how PUA is a fraud.  I believe that this is the reason why MGTOW(MSTOW?) has been growing exponentially the past few years.  Bill brought up a great point on how MGTOW is suffering from infighting and is cult like, just like the PUA movement(a total cult).  I have no doubt that incels who, a few years ago, would have joined PUA, and failed miserably at it, are now becoming MGTOW.  The end result is the same, those incels would have still been incels, PUA or not.  At least with MGTOW, they are not wasting thousands of dollars on BS seminars/workshops, and all the stupid tricks to try and pick up women by feeding their narcissism and entitlement.  These guys are just going out and hiring hookers, dating women just for sex(if they are not incel), or just dropping out entirely, which despite what the cunt or its nagina says, will harm women if men in vast numbers are behaving like this, whether they are sent their own way or not.  Nobody is making any money on MGTOW unlike with PUA.  MGTOW are trying to spread word on the true nature of women, which is great, because it will end up harming women vs validating and pedestalizing them like PUA does.


6 thoughts on “MGTOW is the new PUA

  1. The MGTOW movement is unkind to incels. They don’t even believe in the concept.
    They got sex relatively easy and think that should be the way for all guys who really want it.
    (Hookers, escorts, tramps etc..)
    They had little sympathy for Eliot Rodgers, but they fail to understand that it is impossible
    to give up on something you’ve never had to begin with, and NEVER will have.
    There was a famous singer from the last century named Eddie Fischer. The title of his
    autobiography was “Been There, Done That.” He was married 8 times.


  2. ^ I wonder if the “MGTOW” you are actually talking about are “PUA-posing-as-MGTOW” … in short, alpha male pretending to be MGTOW.
    Because, those men don’t need to resort to dollars to get sex: Women give it to them.

    By the way, Greece is now a go-to place for fresh tasty tarts at affordable prices.
    2 Euros, and they’re between 17-20.
    Who says recessions and widespread unemployment don’t make for good times?

    By the way, not all “MGTOW” are unsympathetic to what Elliott, Sodini and Cho did.
    Because, if women want to live in a society, they have to reciprocate … even if they don’t want to, just like men … have to work even if they don’t want to.

    Houses aren’t going to get any cheaper (unless you want to live in a pit of crime) …
    so ladies, you better either turn tricks quickly, sleep with the boss … or sucker a man into marriage for half.

    Of course, fewer guys are believing them. And … good for them. Even in Asia – most c(o)untries have below fertility level replacement rates.


  3. I’m a MGTOW. I got major puzzie from the age of 11 onward. Will I ever get married and give a slotc the ring of power to destroy my life? R U Phucking Kidding Me?! Women can kiss my royal AZZ! Puzzie is good for one thing and one thing only- pump and dump. Get married? Ha! You’d have to be the worlds biggest fool – which is the kind of man puzzies are after!


  4. Ayn Rand didn’t have MGTOW in mind when she wrote “Atlas Shrugged,” but it depicts a MGTOW-like situation where the productive men of the mind go on strike to starve the abusive socialist state of wealth.

    The novel even shows sexual eviction as the burden of the MGTOW. John Galt was a virgin until well into his 30’s; Francisco d’Anconia went without sex after his youthful romance with Dagny; Ragnar gets to spend only one month out of the year with his wife; most of the other men on strike aren’t married or otherwise have women in their lives. Did Eddie Willers ever get to sleep with a girl?

    By contrast, many of the novel’s villains have girlfriends, mistresses and pickups. Rand inadvertently shows that women are really attracted to the jerks, thugs and bad boys, not to the productive nerds like John Galt.

    Yet Rand cultists from her lifetime onward have claimed that her philosophy promotes sexual fulfillment as a kind of byproduct, when Rand’s own novel shows sexual scarcity and frustration instead.


  5. “Ayn Rand didn’t have MGTOW in mind when she wrote “Atlas Shrugged,” but it depicts a MGTOW-like situation where the productive men of the mind go on strike to starve the abusive socialist state of wealth.”

    BA…BA…BA…BA…BINGO! Women and the state can’t survive without the abused utility, imposed disposabilty and forced wealth transfer from men to women and the state.

    You nailed it, brah. You are so much smarter than everyone else.


  6. I just watched “The Big Bang Theory” episode where Sheldon fucks a woman for the first time, well into his 30’s.

    NOT FUNNY, and certainly not an accurate depiction of most male virgins’ situations at that age, because Amy wanted sex with Sheldon all along. By contrast, male virgins usually wind up that way through sexual eviction by all the women they’ve known.

    The episode also assumes that Sheldon could get an erection and perform sexually at that age on his first try, without any preparation. I found out otherwise through my own experience in my 30’s.


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