MGTOW(MSTOW) Should embrace the TFL movement

MGTOW(MSTOW)  Men Sent Their Own Way should begin embracing the TFL/incel movement instead of calling us a bunch of losers.  Nearly 100% of men who are MGTOW are living TFL/incel but will never admit to it because they see it as unmanly/uncool.  They see this as unmanly/uncool because they  still deep down care what the cunt thinks of them.  This is just common sense, just like the PUA movement.  The PUA hates TFL/incel with a passion and works even harder to shame us than the women do.  Talk about self hatred.  All PUA’s I have ever known were incel, myself included, but try to convince themselves that they are not to appease women.   Just as Bill Greathouse said, PUA could not exist without TFL/incel.  A simple case of problem, reaction, solution.  Well MGTOW/PUA, what is unmanly/uncool is to be so insecure that you actually care what naginas and the cunts think.  MGTOW is TFL/incel, just like PUA is.  This infighting between men’s groups is getting us nowhere.  This is exactly what the cunt wants.  Once we are all on the same page, only then can we work together as a group to overthrow the gynocracy.  After all, this is the ultimate outcome we all want.

21 thoughts on “MGTOW(MSTOW) Should embrace the TFL movement

  1. Surely you’re not oblivious to currant events. The terrorist/subversive “sleepers” are ALREADY
    in place! It may seem “off topic,” but I assure you it’s not.
    Want girls? Get on the right team. The terrorists and assorted “bad boys” have 1,000’s of
    groupies fawning over them. The Orlando “night club killer,” and Boston Marathon bombers had wives
    that cheerfully accepted their abuse and beatings. Have you seen a BLM demonstration? They’ve
    got “lookers” there as well. Convert to Islam. That’s very chic. Decisive men that know their own minds.
    That’s what women want. Not that they would have a choice anyway.
    But I WOULD get a move on. You only have till September. After that….
    For a clue about how it will be pulled off, listen to the song “Moonlight, Feels Right,” by Starbuck.


  2. Actually you’re both full of it. As long as you have a hatred towards women, you really don’t deserve any of us. What absolute horseshit that you say nothing but degrading things about us, and then stupidly turn around and wonder why nobody wants you. You have nothing to offer. You have an ugly personality. You wallow in self pity, and then blame everyone else (of course, only women) because you’re so mentally hideous that it probably constantly reflects in your every day attitude. Until you admit that all of your problems are stemming from yourself only, you will be whiny and alone. Don’t particularly care about any attacks this might generate, because honestly, it’s the only tactic of a small mind. Your problem is you. If you honestly hate us that much, either go gay or leave us alone. We don’t like “bad boys”, you just pretend that’s what we’re into because then it gets you off the hook for your nasty worldview. Women who allow themselves to be abused are usually that way because of parental abuse. Not because we think that’s so cool. What you are promoting is abuse of women. So naturally, in your twisted mind, that would make you attractive to us. That is ultimate proof that the problem is you and your childish lashing out. If people like you are going to go around claiming women can’t have your situation, then buddy, you can’t possibly be going through it, either. That’s giving us power we don’t have. It also proves that you feel inferior, and lashing out like a preteen is your only way to deal with it. It’s really pretty pathetic. Maybe you should be lashing out at other men for having something you don’t. Just ignore the fact that you don’t have it because of a complete lack of common decency. Because you’re more abusive than most of the men you think “get all the girls”.


  3. All I can say to that is read a book titled “Red Flags,” by attorney Wendy Patrick.
    She-and many other women-ADMIT that women are attracted to “bad boys.”
    At the very least women like Alpha males.
    As far as “sour grapes” are concerned, I admit that it’s best to have an upbeat attitude however
    unfair you think you’ve been treated-male OR female. And I also think that many women SETTLE
    for violent men because very few men have the combination of aggressiveness AND tenderness
    that women crave. It’s a very difficult balancing act. They’d like a man like “Captain Kirk” from the
    old “Star Trek” series.
    And yep, ugly men just aren’t going to have a chance. And men won’t settle. The media gives them
    a false sense of entitlement. There really is no answer.
    It’s a moot point because we’re gonna be wiped out soon.


  4. Hi Stacey,

    I’d like to take issue with just one thing that you say (you make a lot of points, but one stands out for now).

    »We don’t like “bad boys”«

    The idea that women like “bad boys” isn’t a male concoction. Plenty of women are open about it, including one who is considered an inspiration for women –

    Note that her advice is to date the bad boys before settling down. Given that most women are hotter in their 20s then their 30s, that means the bad boy gets the better deal than the good guy (and why’s he supposed to go along with this anyway?)

    Of course, much depends on the meaning of bad. A mild disregard for convention (indicating confidence) goes a long way. Or as the Shangri-Las put it sixty years ago:

    -‘he’s good-bad, but he’s not evil” –
    “tell me more ! tell me more !!”

    (around the 55 sec mark) –


  5. Good point Alif,

    I do not know why the cunt just does not admit it only loves its badboy, as that would at least warrant some respect. Just goes to show that cunts do the exact opposite of what they say, ALWAYS.


  6. Like I said. “Captain Kirk.” (For those old enough to remember.) The nickname for him was
    “Intersteller Womanizer.”


  7. Stacey E: Are you talking hate to my buddy Lon Spector? If so, you don’t know what you’re talking about and would do well to plug your mouth and keyboard with cement. Women’s bad behavior is the cause of the resentment. So cut the crap.

    Lon Spector: Hey, long time no talk. Can you tell me what TFL stands for?


  8. I think it means True Forced Loneliness.
    For my book, I think success or failure with the opposite sex is a combination of
    attractibility (Which includes personality) and dumb luck.
    I think the song “Fair Share,” by Seals and Croffs captures the yearning that many men feel
    BEFORE they pick up a gun.


  9. Well there are guys who say: “I’m good looking. I don’t know why I can’t get a girl.”
    Eliot Rodgers wasn’t hard on the eyes.
    As long as you “put your best foot forward,” it all comes down to the Astrology chart.
    “Sex” is in the 5th house of the Astrology chart. Depending on the planets you have there
    and the angles of the planets (Placements) you can have lots of sex, or little or no sex.
    I think knowledge of Astrology can save lives.
    Let’s say you find out you have a crappy chart. You see that “it” was never meant to be.
    Instead of striking out at random people you decide whether it’s worth it to continue beating your
    head against a stone wall. Maybe, if you can afford it you spend a few thousand dollars on a
    realistic silicon doll. You make the best of a bad situation.


  10. Lon,
    I must say, I find your post comical. I don’t know how in the world you figure that astrology could determine anyone’s fate. We live in AD 2016. I’ve never heard any substantiation to that whatsoever. I’ve only heard it debunked.

    I know for a fact that a man’s success or failure with women largely depends on whether or not he has a disability.

    An interesting fact: In WWII Adolf Hitler issued German soldiers a blow up doll which was folded into their backpack. He did that so that they would theoretically stop seeing prostitutes and catching terrible diseases. But that’s too weird for me. I’ll stick with my hand! LOL

    Have a nice evening/morning


  11. Have you ever had your Natal Chart done? You might be surprised.
    Pay particular attention to the 5th house.
    Surely, you’ve heard of men who claim that they are attractive and still can’t succed with women.
    Sucess or failure must be based on more then just appearence.


  12. Lon,
    I’m willing to check out this natal chart if it is free on the Internet. But I won’t pay any specialist, who I view as crooks. So how do I determine this free on the net?

    Women do not care about men’s physical appearance as they are not visual like men. Women are crazy about microscopic variations in personality.


  13. There’s plenty of free Astrology chart offers on the net, to wet your appetite. Just Google them.
    I agree totally about “predicitive” Astrology. It’s largely a failure. They interpert “symbols” after
    the fact. If they do predict it’s lucky guesses. To me, Astrology is useful to gain a character portroit.
    You can predict likely behavior, oppertunities, and motivations.


  14. Lon.
    I just had 2 different websites calculate my horoscope. I focused on what they said about love, sex, and relationships. They both made me out to be a highly popular lover (the exact opposite is true), and a very unconventional lover (the exact opposite is true). TOTAL BULLSHIT.

    And again, it has nothing to do with Christianity. So you need to forget this counterproductive crap!!!


  15. A “Cheapo” chart probably would tell you what you want to hear to lure you in for $$$.
    Would anybody WANT to be told they’re going to die a virgin?
    Tell me what planets are in your 5th house. That can’t be hidden. If you have no planets in
    the 5th house, tell me what’s in the 8th house.
    It works for me, is all I can say.


  16. Then she should go to the Mid East or Europe. Oh, wait. She can just stay here in the U.S.
    She’ll get what she wants after November 8th.


  17. And just imagine the insanity….

    She’d let her own daughter, sister, whoever, be obliterated to shit by a Sacred Class like a Muslim or Hispanic, and I mean literally decapitated, but she whines about white males (who she wants slaughtered to the last) expressing their frustration. You just can’t be more insane. She’d burn a white male toddler, she’s break it’s fucking head into pieces, but she whines about white males expressing their frustration here.


  18. It’s all in the public record for everyone to see.
    Did you know that they are so brainwashed in Germany and Sweden that they either don’t
    report the rapes or they APOLIGISE to these vicious rapists for reporting them?
    These white dunderheads are placing their daughters on the alter of sacrafice simply because
    the rapists are “oppressed” non-white savages. Aren’t the girls just as violated and dead if a non-white
    person commits the crime? Sheer Satanic insanity.


  19. Lon,
    You said “well, astrology works for me is all I can say.” But if it only works for some people than it doesn’t work at all. Even a broken watch is right twice a day, so some people’s broken watches accurately tell the time when they look at it. And regardless, horoscopes have never changed your situation. Moreover, it makes it harder for non-Christians to accept your Christianity if you’re involved in what they consider to be ridiculous superstition. It’s a potential stumbling block.


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